By Rafia Zafar and Maira Khan
Due to Imran Khan, Trump used to say that let’s talk with the “Taliban” you can’t win them. The way how IK raised the issue of Kashmir, was never done before by any other PM of Pakistan. These views were expressed by Ejaz Chaudhary during an interview with The Educationist. Following are the details:
The Educationist: How was your journey from Jamat e Islami to PTI?
Ejaz Chaudhary: I was impressed by the message and invitation of Jamat e Islami. And at my study time, I worked with them and under their society I was the president of Islami Jamiyat Talabah. Because of innate interest in politics, I chose Jamat e Islami and worked with them for 20 years. I don’t have any issue with their message about Islam but I don’t agree to the way of their politics.
At that time PTI was only a name and so was Imran Khan. I started following him. I did not know him before. Also, I was not a cricket person. But I thought that he was the person who had great personal achievements. In Pakistan it’s hard for a person to have such qualities like Imran Khan. I started following him in politics. I met him in 2006, and in 2007, I joined Tehreek-e-Insaf and till 2015 I took a mission to make PTI, a strong party indeed a true political party.
The Educationist: Joining politics was your own or parents’ decision?
Ejaz Chaudhary: Like all traditional parents, my parents also wished me to become a doctor or an engineer and I became an engineer. I made their dream come true but a man has also his thoughts and concerns that he/she would have to agree people more and more on what is right. Either you call it politics or collective concern. If I was convinced by any kind of talk, I want everyone to agree with me on these right opinions. And this is the main purpose of my life to convince people on true words.
The Educationist: Sources tell that your wife is the daughter of Ameer Jamat e islami. How do you manage your home with politics? Isn’t it really hard to manage time, how you do this?
Ejaz Chaudhary: She is selfless women. He (Ameer) is considered the “Wali” of Pakistan. He is a pure soul freed from any sin and at times, his organization was very strong and established. And she (his wife)is very pious and brave woman. I spend a little time at home from beginning. But she gives her full time, educated our children and still she stands behind me.
(You questioned the time management?)
Yes, she has complained and her complain is damn right. And I have not compensated it yet, but if life is left, Inshallah, this complain will be compensated.
The Educationist: It is said that PTI is the party of women. Is it because of the personality of Imran Khan or due to the importance given by your party to women?
Ejaz Chaudhary: See no 1, PTI has a lot of space for youth. No 2, it has space for educated women to do clean politics. Unlike other traditional political parties, it has become the family. So, the space is always there in this newly developed party for youth, both boys and girls can equally play their role in politics.
Especially the interest of youth was there and age group of ladies of 35 to 40 years was supporting PTI. And also, it is because of the fascinating personality of Imran Khan, other than that his pure and transparent life is also the reason behind that he’s the most transparent personality as a politician. Supreme Court was investigating him for almost 1 year and after that the court declared him “Sadiq and Ameen”.
The Educationist: You are very active in social work and also have a soft corner for minorities. What is your next initiative in current government of Imran Khan, what will be the new development plans in this regard?
Ejaz Chaudhary: I did a lot of social work when I was in Jamat-e-Islami, but since when I have joined Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf, I’m in full-fledged politics. Your down trodden classes like poor, un-educated that live in under-developed areas, minorities, miserable women are main subject of my focus now. Not only I live like a common man but I prefer to sit among them too.
I also think the same about minorities too. I do care about them because I feel that they are the ignored ones. Being a human, we don’t behave like humans with them. However, I first changed my party culture, started accompanying them. I used to meet them and started sharing their happiness and sorrows. I used to eat with them too. I preferred this tradition and Islam don’t restrict us from this at any cost. I’m sensible enough to understand what our “Deen” says. I know what is, “Halal” and “Haram”. And no matter if we meet minorities for their betterment and to make them understand our matters, there is no restriction. I clearly say, I meet them and stay firm with them at hard times.
The Educationist: As Imran khan has already told us in manifesto of the party that “Naya Pakistan” would be like this and that….. What will you say about the price hike in petroleum, goods, and increased taxes?
Ejaz Chaudhary: I’ll give you the answer in one sentence. The country was facing a major default. We even didn’t have 2 rupees to pay the debt, to run the government or to give something to the public. We also had to pay the debt. We had two ways; either to deceive people by lying for the time being or to make public aware of the issues.
For example, PSO is in default now a days, so as PIA and steel mills, so if we can manage a little from this way, we can save them. Secondly, in 4 to 6 months the foreign investment will be the way out except there’s no way.
The Educationist: Don’t you think that there’s a difference in what Imran Khan said and what he’s doing?
Ejaz Chsaudhary: Yes, He was right at that time and this time too. One thing is a person’s concept and thinking and other in the reality is the practical solution.
(He countered a question) If I choose one way and there is a hole out there, then I’ll definitely go for another way. Am I doing right or wrong? In the same way, when he goes into that journey he gets to know that we have to do these certain measures to save our country. I say that, (he picked up his shirt front in a hanging way) I don’t want to make him this kind of PM. Why? He’s that personality in the world that people look for him, he don’t look for people. Let’ make a comparison, take Yousaf Raza Gillani, Raja Pervaiz Ashraf and Nawaz Sharif, now look at them and then at Imran Khan. People pay attention to Imran Khan even America is interested towards Imran khan. Trump used to say that let’s talk with the “Taliban” you can’t win them. How he has faced India, the way he raised the issue of Kashmir that was never done by any PM of Pakistan.
The Educationist: It was said that the accountability was only limited to N-league unless your party member Aleem Khan was arrested. According to the opposition, it is all dramatized. What is your opinion?
Ejaz Chaudhary: If there are those people in the opposition who are not involved in crimes themselves, then it will be the balanced opinion. And if all those speakers that are lined up in a row, they are involved in cases so they will talk the same what they are saying. Imran Khan will not save anyone, even not himself. He’s offering himself too in front of NAB in the case of 17 lacs even though NAB doesn’t go into the case less than 20 lacs but he’s going into this case. Imran Khan has set such an example that we couldn’t see in the history of Pakistan. One of his ministers was accused, he resigned. Second was accused, he resigned. Secretary General was accused, he resigned. Provincial senior minster was accused, he resigned too, why? Considering their value so that it couldn’t negatively affect the parameters of investigation. It is the good example, (he countered question) how it is a bad example?
Educationist: What are your future goals? Where do you see
yourself in the future?
Ejaz Chaudhary: I don’t know where I want myself to be but, I do want to see the poor class of our society that what we can do for their education and jobs. Other than that, I don’t see myself anywhere.
The Educationist: Besides politics, what is your hobby?
Ejaz Chaudhary: I listen to “Naat” and not interested in anything other than that. I used to recite Holy Quran but as now as the reading habit has lessened, I have only limited to listening, (he pointed towards his cell phone) it has this facility too, so I listen to “Naat”.
The Educationist: Thank you so much sir for your precious time.